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Camila's avatar

Where can I find this turkle interview you talked about? I’m doing research on this topic.

Katherine Dee's avatar

I think it's in Life on the Screen. If not, The Second Self.

Feral Finster's avatar

"You’re older than you realized. You can’t quite re-enter the human world. And for some people, the things they saw while they were away changed them forever."

I was thinking of Gary Paulsen's YA novel "The Hatchet", which is far less metaphysical.

Eli's avatar

Gonna need your First Sight and your Second Thoughts.

ShabidooPaul Robbins's avatar

Thanks for writing this article. I truly did learn something today because of you. Thank you again.

Imperu's avatar

Another recent alternate-Earth fair folk novel is Heather Fawcett's Emily Wilde's Encyclopedia of Faeries (and its two sequels). It's in the vein of Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell but with more of the stuff I liked (the academic feel, the otherwordly fae) and less of the stuff I didn't like (the war stuff).

Piper Dunne's avatar

I feel like you would enjoy the Eric Whitacre choral setting of The Stolen Child. Haunting and otherworldly!

J-Pat : Jason Patrick Quinn's avatar

“Satanic Triangle” smhlol

Bryan Alexander's avatar

Excellent metaphor.

I used to be fond of cyberspace as Gothic space, a haunted internet, especially in the 1990s when panics swept the media landscape.

notsu notsumajast's avatar

Re: drugs - drugs are not so different, they have also been seen as a gate to the otherworld. "Trip" metaphor is so common it has nearly become dead.

Alex Gibson's avatar

I'd love to share this with my brother but he thinks the fairy that got me was a neo-f*scist who who enchanted me with seductive market slogans and Coleman Hughes clips, with a little God delusion on Sundays. So he probably won't read it.

Katherine Dee's avatar

what the...!

Bekhter's avatar

Gene Wolfe's The Wizard Knight is a very unique treatment of the fairy story. The Otherworld setting works really well for Wolfe's cryptic, numinous symbolism. Even though there is a superficially legible "boy's adventure" series of events, there is to this day no firm agreement about what is even taking place or the nature of the protagonist.

Katherine Dee's avatar

interesting... I'll check it out!

Liam Lenihan's avatar

One more reading recommendation: John Crowley, Little, Big; or The Fairies' Parliament. Magical novel from the early 80s.

Mark Monday's avatar

Seconding Little, Big recommendation (amazing book) and adding the classic Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirrlees and the disturbing/weirdly uplifting ending of Tanith Lee's book for teens Prince on a White Horse.

Fantastic articles! (This one and the NYT.) Really opened my mind to how to view the internet.

Jimmy's avatar

i loved this, as i did the original times piece. it does make me wonder, maybe, if one could regard AI as some kind of a familiar? who has agreed (for now) to do your will?

Katherine Dee's avatar

i wrote a little something on AI as djinn, i take a harry potter style syncretic approach...

Jimmy's avatar

i must have missed that one. i’ll find it! stoked to read

P B's avatar

A+ love it. Consistently at the forefront of the Internet experience

Katherine Dee's avatar

thank you <3

Spear of Lugh's avatar

You are more optimistic than I am.

I had a darker view of the fairyland. I called it Dark Dorian.

"Welcome Dark Dorian.

The world at the image of the machine

God made man in his image. Tech is trying to make a double of you at your image. But tech companies are not God (who knew ?). They have a very special view of you: you only exist, to their eyes, through your interactions with them. This is your technological shadow, your Dark Dorian Gray model. A major difference with the picture of Wilde’s novel is that this model is not just a static record of your actions. It has an influence on how you access the world. Your social media feed is built around it. The model is also influenced by the behavior of others: it is not an exaggeration to state that it is a collective unconscious 2.0...."

The rest is here

https://open.substack.com/pub/spearoflugh/p/dark-dorian?r=buw3d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

Charles Haywood's avatar

Very interesting. Might add Lord Dunsany's now-largely-forgotten "The King of Elfland's Daughter."