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You are very on the page here. Honestly am in the zero growth camp. Up to and never including anything less than a big sloppy smile for ever baby young or old. Let me share that I did my kind of selfish math on your initial 801 words and they describe the world I live in and the picture I take away is painted by John Gray in books and in interviews, as painted by you!? In every resect exactly the same world humanly as it has been since 1470 since the advance of publishing. I see zero differencee except our collected organs demanding their particular trace minerals. Giiive me my I-ron you bastards! I need pickles! Chicken hearts aaaugh (Kathy: copyrite the Golub Syndicate) not a micron of change.

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Really superficial by me maybe but it is noteworthy that it seems a disproportionate number of these anti-modernist nihilist activities come out of parts of the West Coast where people do in theory have comparatively access to natural beauty (America in general is a spectacularly gorgeous place, there are so many different striking biomes that if the country weren't exceptional in so many other ways/had many other claims to fame, this would probably be the thing everyone knows about the US). Of course a lot of this is just simply overdetermined by the fact that the tech companies/associated milieus and unis and the Pacific anarchist scenes etc are just there already, so a lot of mischief would take place there vs other places, but if anything I'd think the ability to literally Get Outside in Paradise would reduce the appeal of violence in favour of the Walden Option (hell, as I was noting, there are extensive wooded etc areas even near random Acela suburbs as a salve against stereotypical shoebox alienation). But then, the fact that violence itself breaks down the nature/technological barrier or reveals its phoniness is perhaps central to understanding this. Things like Camp Fire, the Paradise Fire, the disasters which take the form of raging natural forces but then are revealed to be downstream of human activities (climate change or top-down governance), also creating a very blatant example of "out of control positive feedback," meritocratic/systems breakdown; the eco-systemic understanding all made visually ominous and the stakes illustrated by burns and ashes

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