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I recognize that this isn't exactly a 1:1 fit for the genre of book you describe but I feel like Lapvona by Ottessa Moshfegh fits adjacent to the category just because it feels like Mossfeigh was more preoccupied by medieval peasants doing gross stuff than having a point

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Very thoughtful as ever, thank you DF. I'm saving this post to my Zotero because I think you are really onto something with the gore-books as 'catalogs' rather than actual plots.

How do you think this compares, if at all, to the torture-porn boom in cinema in the 00s? I'm thinking stuff like the Saw franchise or Hostel, but also the more thoughtful, kind of artsy end of things like Martyrs. It feels different to me (never having really watched these films, lol) because it leaves open the space for a story, or at least the space for meditation on ideas of artistic merit, but the way you describe these books, that space seems closed off. It bears more resemblance to Randy's thoughts on 'synthetic autism' and the importance of categorisation as a fundamental feature of the internet as a medium. As with Pornhub, so with AO3 and its parallel developments in 'real' publishing. See here for ref: https://eggreport.substack.com/p/identity-politics-and-synthetic-autism

Anyway, just some thoughts.

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